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RHOP Recap: Candiace Reacts to Ashley’s Character Statement + Karen Wants Candiace to Come Clean

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Regardless of the criticism, Ashley stands by her choice.

Ashley continues to talk to Gizelle and Robyn about her agreeing to write a character statement for Monique. Even though the women don’t see how Candiace can take this news well, Ashley still plans to reveal this information to Candiace during their dominatrix party. And as far as Ashley is concerned, writing the character statement will make them even.

Gizelle has questions about where Candiace and Karen stand. 

While the ladies are at the beach, Gizelle talks to Candiace while Karen is away taking pictures with Ashley. And Gizelle asks Candiace how she’s really feeling about Karen as of late. Candiace says she looks at Karen differently after she didn’t ice out Monique. And Gizelle says, “As you should.”

Candiace isn’t sure she can trust Karen anymore. And she doesn’t feel, “the full weight of Karen’s support.”

Karen’s ulcer isn’t believed.

The ladies go to dinner and they take interest in Karen ordering a glass of champagne. They bring up her ulcer and Karen says she took medication prior, so she’s fine to have champagne. In a green screen interview, Gizelle says Karen is lying about having an ulcer. And she’s been too afraid to drink because she doesn’t want to get drunk and spill her own tea again.

Robyn tells Karen her pictures weren’t used.

After the women do more sightseeing, they have lunch. Robyn then breaks the news that her website for Embellished is finished, but she won’t be using Karen’s pictures. She’s happy with everyone else’s though. Karen says she really doesn’t care.

Gizelle talks to Ashley about her relationship with Jamal. She feels they are in a great space and they talk all the time. They have a great friendship and she’s working on becoming a better communicator.

Later on, Karen tells the others she has a wig line coming out. In a green screen interview, Gizelle says Karen is always coming up with new businesses. Regardless, Karen is inviting all the women to come to her wig launch party. Robyn then asks if Monique will be invited.

Karen says she’s not inviting Monique because it’s not a good idea for Monique to be around everyone else at the moment.

Gizelle questions Karen’s mouth being in retirement.

Back at the hotel, the women have a dominatrix party. Ashley starts everything off by asking questions. She asks the women the last time they orally pleased their men. Gizelle says she did so before she left for Portugal, and Karen says she hasn’t in two and a half years. Her mouth is in “retirement.” And it’s because she’s been going through some things.

In a green screen interview, Gizelle says she believes if a woman doesn’t orally please her man, someone else will do it for them.

Ashley comes clean.

After all the questions and games are played, Ashley tells Candiace about the statement. Wendy, Candiace, Gizelle, and Robyn gang up on her for it. But Ashley doesn’t back down and she says she’s standing up for her friend Monique. So Candiace can move forward how she pleases because Ashley no longer cares.

Karen then becomes the target after she says that what Monique did was wrong. And she begged her to apologize to Candiace. Candiace says Karen shouldn’t’ have to tell Monique to apologize. Karen then says she saw something happen during the altercation that the others missed. They all demand to know what this is.

Karen stands firm.

In a green screen interview, Karen says she saw the statement Candiace wrote for the court and in it, Candiace admitted that she actually “released a glass at Monique in self-defense.” And she’s waiting for Candiace to admit that.

After Candiace breaks down in tears and says that she is now taking anxiety medication, Gizelle says she hopes Karen sees how wrong she is. And in a green screen interview, Gizelle says that everyone knows Monique is wrong. And Karen is on the “wrong team.”

When Candiace goes back to her hotel room, she calls Chris and tells him about Ashley writing a character statement. The statement discusses the butter knife incident. And she and Chris claim that Monique said she didn’t like Ashley and hasn’t forgiven her.

Michael has no sympathy for Candiace.

Ashley calls Michael, and he says the fact is Ashley could have done something legally to Candiace after she “brandished
a knife” at her. Michael doesn’t like Candiace and he says Ashley owes her no loyalty after that. He thinks it’s absurd that Gizelle, Wendy, and Robyn are trying to make Ashley feel like she owes Candiace anything.

And when Ashley tells Michael that Candiace said Monique was actually bashing Ashley being her back, Michael says Candiace is a liar who can’t be trusted.

Chris and Candiace talk about Karen. Candiace feels Karen doesn’t have her back and she’s really supporting Monique.

What are your thoughts on the episode?

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22 Comments

22 Comments

  1. Meg

    November 23, 2020 at 11:09 am

    I think this episode just showed how hypocritical all these women are. Candiace cries every other episode and says Monique has no remorse, yet she still has none for what she did to Ashley last season. Which is fine, but she needs to remember that just like she has no remorse, Monique doesn’t have to have any either. When Candiace told Ashley she’s just mad at “what you think I did to you,” it was very evident that those apologies Candiace gave Ashley were straight up bullsh-t. And no one is assassinating Candiace’s character. We all saw her wave that knife around like a maniac and throw it Ashley all because she was mad Ashley reminded her that was Dorothy’s house. So just like Candiace said Monique only assaulted her because she couldn’t handle her mouth, Candiace only assaulted Ashley because she couldn’t handle Ashley’s mouth. Seems like to be Candiace got her karma this year, so why are we supposed to feel sorry for her?

    • Connie Patton

      November 23, 2020 at 5:22 pm

      I think the ladies are hypocritical as Ashley spoke the TRUTH that happened between the two of them. She’s not wrong for speaking the truth just because they all feel that Monique is wrong. Candice needs to acknowledge her wrong and quit playing the victim

      • cher

        November 23, 2020 at 5:55 pm

        What most of these comments don’t realize is the same way Ashley wrote a character witness statement about Candiace, one could be written about Monique, Candice CAN get someone to write one, it’s just that simple,Monique started that altercatiion, and if i had to bring JESUS as a witness, I would, Monique would not get away or around this, Candice keep your head up, what goes around comes around, secondly, nobody is watching Karen,Karen is very conniving and slick,she’s a liar, keep watching, you’ll see…..
        but don’t trust her!!!!!

        • Old School

          November 23, 2020 at 6:17 pm

          What you’re not realizing is Candiace was always going to lose in court. You think Candiace getting a character statement on Monique was going to change anything when Monique was just going to get one on her too? Some of you truly don’t understand the law. Candiace’s history of violence and history of egging on Monique for a fight was not going to be ignored in court because some of you fans are in your feelings. Candiace is not a victim. She’s a woman who lost a fight she’s been asking for…for over a year. Move on. Karen did the right thing. She’s not a hypocritical follower like y’all want her to be. If she didn’t abandon Candiace and try to ice her out the show for being violent towards Ashley last year, don’t expect her to change up on Monique. I am so tired of you hypocritical fans. Y’all weren’t against violence last year. So stop it. And I just know you ain’t talking about what goes around comes around. If anything, Candiace is getting her karma this season. She also better hope and pray she doesn’t get karma for being homophobic, transphobic, and telling a sick blogger to die. Oh and she better hope she doesn’t get karma also for the disgusting anti black comments she’s been making as well. It’s amazing how people like you ignore how problematic she is.

        • Twirl

          November 23, 2020 at 6:54 pm

          Oh girl please! Candiace is lucky Ashley didn’t press charges on her last season! She’s a fake victim!

          • Vanessa

            November 23, 2020 at 7:55 pm

            I can’t believe Candiance. They both was wrong.Her mouth got her butt beat. Move on already. I dont think she is mature enough to be with this group of ladies. Loose lips sink ships and sometimes people dont be feeling a person talking smack to them. I don’t like black women fighting but sometimes things and situations will take you there. Most black women are aware of this. Candance have been asking for it a long time and Monique shut it down. They both need to apology to each other and move on.

    • R. M. Bell

      November 23, 2020 at 9:02 pm

      I agree…I think they are jealous of Monique. We never heard if any of them before the show. Monique’s husband has been the man for a while. They are well established. Gizelle was a hater from the start…once Monique mentioned the property they owned… Gizelle turned green with envy and its been on ever since. Gizelle is a sh-t starter and trouble maker…maybe thats her diversion…to keep from looking at her situation. What is she 16…”we talk on the phone all the time”. We know he lives in another state…it doesn’t get much better for a cheating preacher. How convenient…she’s always talking about Ashley and Micheal…look at your own situation. You are a good looking black sister…but you are shady as h-ll.

  2. Brown

    November 23, 2020 at 11:10 am

    Can we please talk about something else?

  3. Ms. Jackson

    November 23, 2020 at 11:27 am

    They overhyped this season so much. The reunion better deliver.

  4. Diva

    November 23, 2020 at 11:36 am

    I can’t believe the only people who aren’t annoying me this season are Karen and Ashley. Two people who have annoyed me tremendously in the past seasons. What a crazy time this has been.

  5. Boring

    November 23, 2020 at 12:04 pm

    So basically Wendy is just another Robyn, except the person’s a-s she’s so far in is Candiace’s. What a dusty a-s season. They made such a big deal about this season since last year, and it’s been boring because all they want to talk about is the fight and Monique. Bring on the Atlanta housewives and Married to Medicine please.

    • Dominique

      November 23, 2020 at 12:28 pm

      Nailed it. Wendy is definitely another Robyn. Anyone Candiace has a problem with, Wendy has a problem with. And she stays talking about holding people accountable when the only people she holds accountable are the ones Candiace doesn’t like. It’s so transparent and annoying. I thought she would bring some substance to the show, but she actually hasn’t. When she’s not talking about her four degrees, she’s Candiace’s puppet. Yuck.

      • Ms D.K.

        November 23, 2020 at 8:05 pm

        Agreed!! Her 4 degrees is her storyline!! Please exit Wendy from the show! Her fashion choice is about as tired as Gizelle’s hypocritical behind…I take that back! She’s a close second to Gizelle!!

    • Chelly

      November 23, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      Right and my thing is if Candiace can have Wendy and the others riding for her, why can’t Monique have Ashley and Karen ride for her? Then people are like Ashley should have stayed out of it when Gizelle, Wendy, and Robyn didn’t stay out of it. Make it make sense. They’re all just mad Monique will not be iced out of the show. They thought they would get her fired but Andy, Karen and Ashley aren’t having it.

  6. Dominique

    November 23, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    How does Gizelle go season after season stirring up sh-t and not getting dragged by these women? She stirred sh-t between Candiace and Monique, and now she’s stirring sh-t between Candiace and Karen. Can’t forget she stirred sh-t between Wendy and Karen too. And I noticed Robyn’s messy a-s was the one who set the mood before Ashley told Candiace about the statement. It was Robyn’s messy a-s who felt the need to talk about how well they’ve all been getting along when she knew d-mn well what Ashley did. For once I’d like to see Robyn and Gizelle get called out for the constant meddling and pot stirring. It’s been going on for too long. Are these other women scared of them? Make it make sense.

  7. Queen

    November 23, 2020 at 1:24 pm

    I really can’t stand the hypocrisy and gaslighting this season. I feel like they are really insulting the intelligence of the viewers.

  8. Iknowright

    November 23, 2020 at 1:50 pm

    Candiace like a school yard bully.Alot of mouth and little action.But when gets to point of being DRAGGED .Then wants to play victim.You run your mouth you get popped in the head No have time for a slick mouth.She left you where she found you.
    Mrs Four degrees brings them up every discussion.Just because you have them doesn’t make your statements any better

  9. Marilyn Garis

    November 23, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    As beautiful as Gizelle is on the outside; she is really ugly, mean & hateful on the inside. She is so jealous of Karen & Monique. With friends like Gizelle, who needs enemies? I don’t buy the big love story w/the Rev & all the baby-mamas.
    Candiace is just another agitator & trouble-maker w/very smart mouth. In no way, am I condoning Monique’s behavior at all. No doubt, Candiace was trying to agitate the situation w/Monique & Monique was wrong to let her get to her.
    What Wendy states about the fighting is true. And she is so obsessed w/her importance as a Ph.D. I am proud of her though.

  10. Pat

    November 23, 2020 at 2:21 pm

    Karen is sick of the sh-t this season and I’m loving it.

  11. Trina

    November 23, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    When is anyone going to say something about Candice and the fake crying, she has not shed a tear with all her crying.
    Karen is waiting for Candice to acknowledge her part in the fight admit her part, not going to happen, Candice feels she can say anything without repercussions.
    The Green Eyed Bandits are all for the drama of getting ready of Monique
    Both were wrong.

  12. Candace

    November 23, 2020 at 11:05 pm

    They shamed Monique she was giving black women a bad name. But Candiace tweaking and showing her a-s was perfectly okay. GISELLE who stated that she was the 1st lady or had to protect Jamal reputation is okay with sucking disks and playing with d-ldos on TV… I can’t

  13. Annoyed

    November 24, 2020 at 7:23 am

    All of the ladies have the right to make their own choice who’s side they want to be on or if they want to stay neutral. Candiace needs to stop with all of her fake crying. Every time time she opens her mouth she is dabbing her eyes searching for some fake tears. She wants attention. Little girl go sit down somewhere because you are not ready to be in this big scary world. As for poor Gizelle I just have pity for her because she is so jealous of Karen that she spends all of her time trying to turn the other ladies against Karen. Gizelle is still mad at Karen because she does not support her so called relationship with Jamal. Gizelle should be mad at herself for showing her daughter’s that it is okay to lower yourself just to have a man in your life even if he treated you like sh_t. Robyn is just Gizelle’s lap dog. Gizelle started an argument at Robyn’s open house messing with her money/business. Friends do not do sh_t like that. Robyn is desperate for a man and friendship. Gizelle should not talk about putting Pastor Jamal Bryant’s p_nis in her mouth. I am sure that will be another proud moment for her daughters. The things people do for money. Gizelle have your doctor on speed dial and your insurance card at your finger tips because girl you are going to need it messing around with the pastor.

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